Discussion:
IRC vs identd vs inetd.conf vs me! [255...?]
Peter Leftwich
2002-06-01 04:06:04 UTC
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PL> *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
PL> *** Closing Link: mrmeatie[***@255.255.255.255] (Banned)

I have uncommented the proper "auth" lines in my /etc/inetd.conf file,
and added one line of text (8 chars) to a file called ~/.fakeid however-

I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP
is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run
identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait,
internal, etc?"

Thanksd for your help with identd,

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Giorgos Keramidas
2002-06-02 00:18:30 UTC
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Post by Peter Leftwich
PL> *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
I have uncommented the proper "auth" lines in my /etc/inetd.conf file,
and added one line of text (8 chars) to a file called ~/.fakeid however-
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP
is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run
identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait,
internal, etc?"
The IP is probably coming out as 255.255.255.255 because the IRC
server software, either:

a) Tries to hide your real IP address, from the logs.
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.

You wouldn't happen to be running identd in a machine that is behind a
firewall or masquerading gateway, which blocks the incoming identd
requests from the IRC server, right?

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Peter Leftwich
2002-06-03 00:39:12 UTC
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Post by Giorgos Keramidas
I have uncommented the proper "auth" lines in my /etc/inetd.conf file, and added one line of text (8 chars) to a file called ~/.fakeid however-
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait, internal, etc?"
Do you mean IRC client? I am not running an IRC server.
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
a) Tries to hide your real IP address, from the logs.
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.
I am using Time Warner RoadRunner's cable modem service and AFAIK all their
"dialup" IPs are resolvable.
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
You wouldn't happen to be running identd in a machine that is behind a firewall or masquerading gateway, which blocks the incoming identd requests from the IRC server, right?
- Giorgos
I -wish- I were behind a firewall... But I could never understand "open" or
"simple" etc uses of ipfw (in /etc/rc.conf yes?) Besides, identd is not
running; Something [builtin?] called auth is supposed to be taking care of
ident queries to my PC on port 113 or whatever.

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Giorgos Keramidas
2002-06-03 00:59:39 UTC
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Post by Peter Leftwich
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
The IP is probably coming out as 255.255.255.255 because the IRC
Do you mean IRC client? I am not running an IRC server.
You are trying to connect to an IRC server though!
Post by Peter Leftwich
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
You wouldn't happen to be running identd in a machine that is
behind a firewall or masquerading gateway, which blocks the
incoming identd requests from the IRC server, right?
I -wish- I were behind a firewall... But I could never understand
"open" or "simple" etc uses of ipfw (in /etc/rc.conf yes?) Besides,
identd is not running; Something [builtin?] called auth is supposed
to be taking care of ident queries to my PC on port 113 or whatever.
You can always use sockstat(1) to find out.

# sockstat -l4 | grep 113

PS: Please do NOT reindent my text and `unwrap' it. I like my
70-column wrapped text a lot better :-P

- Giorgos


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Chip Norkus
2002-06-03 06:09:26 UTC
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Post by Giorgos Keramidas
Post by Peter Leftwich
PL> *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
I have uncommented the proper "auth" lines in my /etc/inetd.conf file,
and added one line of text (8 chars) to a file called ~/.fakeid however-
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP
is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run
identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait,
internal, etc?"
The IP is probably coming out as 255.255.255.255 because the IRC
a) Tries to hide your real IP address, from the logs.
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.
'a' is correct here. Most IRC servers basically avoid ever outputting the
real IP address of.. well.. anything, to just about anyone.

As for identd and IRC servers, when using the internal inetd auth service,
be sure to change the '-o UNKNOWN' option to '-o UNIX', or the IRC server
won't believe your ident reply comes from a correct rfc1413 source. This
is silliness on the part of the IRC server.
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
You wouldn't happen to be running identd in a machine that is behind a
firewall or masquerading gateway, which blocks the incoming identd
requests from the IRC server, right?
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Giorgos Keramidas
2002-06-04 00:44:38 UTC
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Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.
As for identd and IRC servers, when using the internal inetd auth service,
be sure to change the '-o UNKNOWN' option to '-o UNIX', or the IRC server
won't believe your ident reply comes from a correct rfc1413 source. This
is silliness on the part of the IRC server.
Seems to work fine here:

hades+root:~# grep auth /etc/inetd.conf
auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 30
Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
/who keramida
/whois keramida
[ Whois keramida (***@patr530-a084.otenet.gr) ]
: Ircname : Giorgos Keramidas
: Channels : #patra #linux #jokes-gr #thessaloniki #mylene #hellas
: Server : nini.irc.gr [IRC.GR Server at OTEnet]
: Services : keramida has identified for this nick
: Signon : Tue Jun 4 03:39:10 2002
: Idle : 37 seconds


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Peter Leftwich
2002-06-06 03:30:02 UTC
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Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait, internal, etc?"
I need clarification here... when you say "IRC server software," do you
mean the program running at the destination or on my PC?
Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
a) Tries to hide your real IP address, from the logs.
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.
'a' is correct here. Most IRC servers basically avoid ever outputting the
real IP address of.. well.. anything, to just about anyone.
b is incorrect.
Post by Chip Norkus
As for identd and IRC servers, when using the internal inetd auth service, be sure to change the '-o UNKNOWN' option to '-o UNIX', or the IRC server won't believe your ident reply comes from a correct rfc1413 source. This is silliness on the part of the IRC server. -wd
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I made the change to "-o UNIX" then tried connecting to some IRC servers
listed as EFnet ones, such as irc.mindspring.com and irc.umich.edu and
irc.easynews.com but still having that same problem with 255's and it
saying "banned." Bizarre. Any other ideas?

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Chip Norkus
2002-06-06 21:07:27 UTC
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Post by Peter Leftwich
Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder why the IP is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP address. Is it possible to run identd "cloaked" (or whatever) as auth externally and not just "nowait, internal, etc?"
I need clarification here... when you say "IRC server software," do you
mean the program running at the destination or on my PC?
I mean the program running at the destination (the IRC server).
Post by Peter Leftwich
Post by Chip Norkus
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
a) Tries to hide your real IP address, from the logs.
b) Can not resolve your IP address, or similar.
'a' is correct here. Most IRC servers basically avoid ever outputting the
real IP address of.. well.. anything, to just about anyone.
b is incorrect.
Post by Chip Norkus
As for identd and IRC servers, when using the internal inetd auth service, be sure to change the '-o UNKNOWN' option to '-o UNIX', or the IRC server won't believe your ident reply comes from a correct rfc1413 source. This is silliness on the part of the IRC server. -wd
--
"question = (to) ? be : !be;" --Shakespeare http://telekinesis.org/
I made the change to "-o UNIX" then tried connecting to some IRC servers
listed as EFnet ones, such as irc.mindspring.com and irc.umich.edu and
irc.easynews.com but still having that same problem with 255's and it
saying "banned." Bizarre. Any other ideas?
If you're IRCing as root, or using some other poor choice for a username,
you may incur this problem. Also, a lot of EFnet servers are restricted to
most users. You'll have to bounce around to find out which ones you can
use.
Post by Peter Leftwich
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Giorgos Keramidas
2002-06-06 20:43:12 UTC
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[ Attributions fixed. Please keep them instead of deleting them. ]
Post by Peter Leftwich
Post by Giorgos Keramidas
Post by Peter Leftwich
I continue to get errors similar to the ones above, and wonder
why the IP is coming out as 255's and not my actual IP
address. Is it possible to run identd "cloaked" (or whatever)
as auth externally and not just "nowait, internal, etc?"
The IP is probably coming out as 255.255.255.255 because the IRC
I need clarification here... when you say "IRC server software," do
you mean the program running at the destination or on my PC?
Yes, that's what I meant. The "IRC server software" is the program
that runs on the remote machine, on the "IRC server". When you fire
up your favorite "IRC client", you are are using your client program
to connect to the "IRC server", and issue commands or send text to
other users connected to the same "IRC server".

Why are you so confused about it? ;-)

- Giorgos


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